important realization about wörk today:
i don’t get paid to do nothing
i get paid to wait
i don’t get paid to do nothing
i get paid to wait
:gondola_head: 🌿 
@cell Meanwhile last Wednesday I got paid nothing for a whole week of work.
@kaia @cell
You didn't see last weeks post ?
TL;DR
Someone I maintained their hardware for the past 15 years, 2 times, first obvious common repair/maintenance, second was two year ago just because of they kids or windows 10 tried to mess the thing and libreoffice didn't launch itself.
After telling me two years ago that the non lucrative was a banger solution, they now told me no "I almost don't use the computer but only my phone" even tho I told them it for all devices of a housing.
And wanted to pay me 80ø for a whole week worth of work.
80ø for:
-LCD screen replacement (kids broke it)
-Full paper report/diagnostic/software-configuration
-4 BD-R containing the original image system plus data and extract CRC
-1 BD-R containing the new dual boot system
-1 BD-R containing the raw data
-1 win install BD-R
-1 DVD with win drivers
-1 Trisquel install DVD
-1 DVD containing all the free/libre software for windows
-2 DVDs for her childrens with "il etait une fois la vie" and "il était une fois l'homme"
What can I give more ?!
Is it because I'm fuck ugly ? Because I don't wear a suit and tie ?
I give everything for them to have peace and tools that aren't destroying their lives and I get no ?!
Idk what to do anymore this is the sixth time that happens.
Still less worse than the previous on as I was able to fully migrated on Trisquel for that user and they didn't have to pay anymore for the scam that is Norton. And like this one they were ok for this new model but after I did all this they didn't understand why they'd contribute monthly for all these services while they were paying for fucking Norton previously ?!
And that was a family member (in law) that has known me since I migrated in France.
Idk if people are doing it on purpose, if they believe me or not when I tell them the actual time I pass or cost of software maintenance or if they're genuinely don't have enough cognition.
I refuse their 80ø, not because of pride, but because it's fucking useless. Might as well give me scrap food, I'll just disappear and they'll get wrecked by the next so called tech and FANGMAN in the future.
Told them it's the last time I do anything for them.
But still I'm depressed by these people.
You didn't see last weeks post ?
TL;DR
Someone I maintained their hardware for the past 15 years, 2 times, first obvious common repair/maintenance, second was two year ago just because of they kids or windows 10 tried to mess the thing and libreoffice didn't launch itself.
After telling me two years ago that the non lucrative was a banger solution, they now told me no "I almost don't use the computer but only my phone" even tho I told them it for all devices of a housing.
And wanted to pay me 80ø for a whole week worth of work.
80ø for:
-LCD screen replacement (kids broke it)
-Full paper report/diagnostic/software-configuration
-4 BD-R containing the original image system plus data and extract CRC
-1 BD-R containing the new dual boot system
-1 BD-R containing the raw data
-1 win install BD-R
-1 DVD with win drivers
-1 Trisquel install DVD
-1 DVD containing all the free/libre software for windows
-2 DVDs for her childrens with "il etait une fois la vie" and "il était une fois l'homme"
What can I give more ?!
Is it because I'm fuck ugly ? Because I don't wear a suit and tie ?
I give everything for them to have peace and tools that aren't destroying their lives and I get no ?!
Idk what to do anymore this is the sixth time that happens.
Still less worse than the previous on as I was able to fully migrated on Trisquel for that user and they didn't have to pay anymore for the scam that is Norton. And like this one they were ok for this new model but after I did all this they didn't understand why they'd contribute monthly for all these services while they were paying for fucking Norton previously ?!
And that was a family member (in law) that has known me since I migrated in France.
Idk if people are doing it on purpose, if they believe me or not when I tell them the actual time I pass or cost of software maintenance or if they're genuinely don't have enough cognition.
I refuse their 80ø, not because of pride, but because it's fucking useless. Might as well give me scrap food, I'll just disappear and they'll get wrecked by the next so called tech and FANGMAN in the future.
Told them it's the last time I do anything for them.
But still I'm depressed by these people.
@mangeurdenuage @kaia @cell
Offering tech services to individuals is not seen by the customers as something worth paying for. A lot of people seem to presume it's a given that one is skilled in computers, because "they're young" or "they grew up with it". They also don't know what difficulties comes with that knowledge, how deep it can go, and don't know how to tell the difference between levels of skills/knowledge of different people.
Additionally, it's seen as a hobby, and a computer is seen as a fun/distraction machine, meaning people don't respect it nor see it as actual work.
People really need computers, but they don't really care for them or what it takes to fix them unless they're very desperate — but that still doesn't mean they're willing to spend. There are many stories of people setting up entire video camera solutions (including buying all the hardware) just to be offered a free meal at a restaurant.
All I can recommend you for the future is to be upfront about the costs, and to do detailed billing to stand that ground. It's not about your looks or your outfit; it's just how the field is seen.
Offering tech services to individuals is not seen by the customers as something worth paying for. A lot of people seem to presume it's a given that one is skilled in computers, because "they're young" or "they grew up with it". They also don't know what difficulties comes with that knowledge, how deep it can go, and don't know how to tell the difference between levels of skills/knowledge of different people.
Additionally, it's seen as a hobby, and a computer is seen as a fun/distraction machine, meaning people don't respect it nor see it as actual work.
People really need computers, but they don't really care for them or what it takes to fix them unless they're very desperate — but that still doesn't mean they're willing to spend. There are many stories of people setting up entire video camera solutions (including buying all the hardware) just to be offered a free meal at a restaurant.
All I can recommend you for the future is to be upfront about the costs, and to do detailed billing to stand that ground. It's not about your looks or your outfit; it's just how the field is seen.
@helene @kaia @mangeurdenuage an analogy would be the tech company who has internal IT support getting paid peanuts compared to the engineers they are supporting - the internal support being viewed as a cost centre full of grunts whereas the engineers, because they support the core of the business and are viewed as much more important and paid accordingly…
@helene @mangeurdenuage @cell @kaia >be upfront about the costs, and to do detailed billing to stand that ground
this, and don't do anything extra beyond what you said you will do in the quotation
this, and don't do anything extra beyond what you said you will do in the quotation
@hakui @kaia @helene @mangeurdenuage > don't do anything extra beyond what you said you will do in the quotation
even in big IT projects this is still sage advice to heed, multiple times upper management has brought this up
t. had to deal with customers asking xyz extras
even in big IT projects this is still sage advice to heed, multiple times upper management has brought this up
t. had to deal with customers asking xyz extras
@mangeurdenuage did you tell them how much it would be in advance? did they agree for it to be X? LCD screen alone without work costs that much, doesn't it?
@kaia
>did you tell them how much it would be in advance?
Yes. 45 euros per months for 5 years. She could, like all the others put it in the non lucrative and become members, they would have gotten the same bonuses but with a plus of a -66% tax deduction which instead of 540 euros yearly it would have been 183 euros.
And that's not for one device, it's for the whole household computers/mobile phones they want to add to it.
>LCD screen alone without work costs that much, doesn't it?
Brand new yes. But I was able to get it for 40euros.
>did you tell them how much it would be in advance?
Yes. 45 euros per months for 5 years. She could, like all the others put it in the non lucrative and become members, they would have gotten the same bonuses but with a plus of a -66% tax deduction which instead of 540 euros yearly it would have been 183 euros.
And that's not for one device, it's for the whole household computers/mobile phones they want to add to it.
>LCD screen alone without work costs that much, doesn't it?
Brand new yes. But I was able to get it for 40euros.
@ooignignoktoo @cell @kaia Look at the cpu.
>This is some pretty aged hardware then >10 years
Works perfectly, boots in 2:30 minutes in windows
1 minute under GNU/linux.
All runs except modern gaymes.
But they didn't have any and the kids tried to install malware so I installed them Luanty with voxellibre, hedgewars and teeworlds.
>This is some pretty aged hardware then >10 years
Works perfectly, boots in 2:30 minutes in windows
1 minute under GNU/linux.
All runs except modern gaymes.
But they didn't have any and the kids tried to install malware so I installed them Luanty with voxellibre, hedgewars and teeworlds.
@mangeurdenuage @cell @helene @kaia well then it'd be a breach of contract for them to not pay up
should have threatened to sue or something
should have threatened to sue or something
@mangeurdenuage @cell @helene @kaia i can't into french, but is there a termination clause anywhere if you're doing yearly subscription contracts
that might help a bit
that might help a bit
@mangeurdenuage @cell @kaia Even then it's only 4GB of DDR3-1333 16GB of DDR3 SODIMM ram should be cheap enough and it'd probably make windows run a lot better.
I upgraded my brother to 16GB of DDR3L SO-Dimm for his birthday last year on his aging thinkpad T420 and got the kit for $25.
I upgraded my brother to 16GB of DDR3L SO-Dimm for his birthday last year on his aging thinkpad T420 and got the kit for $25.
@ooignignoktoo @cell @kaia Read more, you can see there's already 4GB of embedded/soldered RAM.
The 4GB are an extra RAM I added, Totaling 8GB. You can't add more, the shitty bios/UEFI doesn't compute all of it anyway, that or it gives absurd amount of it as shared memory for the GPU.
The 4GB are an extra RAM I added, Totaling 8GB. You can't add more, the shitty bios/UEFI doesn't compute all of it anyway, that or it gives absurd amount of it as shared memory for the GPU.
update: i am still waiting.
and i’m hungry too.
fedi is too slow to satiate my waiting time at wörk.
and i’m hungry too.
fedi is too slow to satiate my waiting time at wörk.
@cell@shitposter.world find a good multi user chat platform
@mangeurdenuage @cell @kaia
>soldered ram
I forgot they started with that bs back then. I had someone with a shitty Acer laptop that did that and i was pissed then and still pissed that the industry is going with that. Ram is a part that can fail at any point and soldered ram is just anti-consumer. I don't care if it's theoretically faster if soldered than socketed either 99.9% of people aren't going to need the speed benefits of soldered ram over socketed and it's just anti-consumer fuckery to make devices prematurely fail or make you pay out the ass when you buy the system to get more ram than you think you may need for "future proofing".
>soldered ram
I forgot they started with that bs back then. I had someone with a shitty Acer laptop that did that and i was pissed then and still pissed that the industry is going with that. Ram is a part that can fail at any point and soldered ram is just anti-consumer. I don't care if it's theoretically faster if soldered than socketed either 99.9% of people aren't going to need the speed benefits of soldered ram over socketed and it's just anti-consumer fuckery to make devices prematurely fail or make you pay out the ass when you buy the system to get more ram than you think you may need for "future proofing".
@mangeurdenuage @kaia @cell @ooignignoktoo
>Works perfectly, boots in 2:30 minutes in windows
That is impressive considering it's running on an HDD.
>Works perfectly, boots in 2:30 minutes in windows
That is impressive considering it's running on an HDD.
@phnt @kaia @cell @ooignignoktoo 7200rpm. On the 5000 rpm dying original HDD it took over 10 minutes to boot the first time I did maintenance on it.
my dad got one of those shitty chromebooks as a signup gift for some gay service.
2gb of ram... soldered.
piece of shit couldnt even be used as a netbrowser cuz it would hang everytime you tried to load a new page. collecting dust in a drawer im guessing.
should use the fucker for target practice next time i go over to my bros barn
2gb of ram... soldered.
piece of shit couldnt even be used as a netbrowser cuz it would hang everytime you tried to load a new page. collecting dust in a drawer im guessing.
should use the fucker for target practice next time i go over to my bros barn
@koropokkur @kaia @cell @mangeurdenuage
I wonder if it could handle TinyCore linux though probably not. If I remember correclty those shitty chromebooks had intel atom cpus. I remember back in 2011 when /g/ was boasting about getting free chromebooks for being in a pilot and people were using the dev mode switch to install linux on it.
I wonder if it could handle TinyCore linux though probably not. If I remember correclty those shitty chromebooks had intel atom cpus. I remember back in 2011 when /g/ was boasting about getting free chromebooks for being in a pilot and people were using the dev mode switch to install linux on it.
around that time i bought one of those rt surfaces for my mom.
shouldve just bought a kindle.
fucking rt... fucking microsoft
shouldve just bought a kindle.
fucking rt... fucking microsoft
@koropokkur @kaia @cell @ooignignoktoo Would have been wiser to get a touch screen thinkpad and show the wonders of zlibrary.
@cell @kaia @ooignignoktoo My polishing from a decade ago still olds up.
That's notably why it's still working.
That's notably why it's still working.
@mangeurdenuage @kaia @cell @ooignignoktoo Yeah, 10 minutes sounds about right. Especially if you consider modern 3rd-party AV bloatware. Dads ChinkPad with a 5400rpm HDD takes around 30 minutes to become usable in any way thanks to ESET doing a "startup" scan that cannot be disabled.
@phnt @kaia @cell @ooignignoktoo
> ESET doing a "startup" scan that cannot be disabled.
Imagine paying for a SaaSS that's literally a scam and they also put the money you give them in a tax haven.
> ESET doing a "startup" scan that cannot be disabled.
Imagine paying for a SaaSS that's literally a scam and they also put the money you give them in a tax haven.
@mangeurdenuage @kaia @cell @ooignignoktoo Updating Windows after two months of not being turned on takes a whole day.
>Imagine paying for a SaaSS that's literally a scam and they also put the money you give them in a tax haven.
It also likes to make scary popups about some random "security vulnerability" every time you boot into Windows. Usually some old driver than cannot be updated anyway, so you just click on "ignore" and continue with your slow computing experience.
>Imagine paying for a SaaSS that's literally a scam and they also put the money you give them in a tax haven.
It also likes to make scary popups about some random "security vulnerability" every time you boot into Windows. Usually some old driver than cannot be updated anyway, so you just click on "ignore" and continue with your slow computing experience.
@phnt @kaia @cell @ooignignoktoo
>Updating Windows after two months of not being turned on takes a whole day.
Disable fast boot. That's the issue. Fast boot on the long terms cause tremendous amount of fragmentation, NTFS was already garbage for that and it's even worse with it. That's also why I create a separate partition and dedicate the swap in to that partition like you would do on a GNU OS.
>so you just click on "ignore" and continue with your slow computing experience.
Also just install clamwin for your father and uninstall/unsubscribe ESET and make him put the money in clamwin instead.
https://clamwin.com/content/view/180/105/
Configure his account as basic user with no password and create an administrator account with one.
That's what I do and it avoids most issues, especially when they have kids.
>Updating Windows after two months of not being turned on takes a whole day.
Disable fast boot. That's the issue. Fast boot on the long terms cause tremendous amount of fragmentation, NTFS was already garbage for that and it's even worse with it. That's also why I create a separate partition and dedicate the swap in to that partition like you would do on a GNU OS.
>so you just click on "ignore" and continue with your slow computing experience.
Also just install clamwin for your father and uninstall/unsubscribe ESET and make him put the money in clamwin instead.
https://clamwin.com/content/view/180/105/
Configure his account as basic user with no password and create an administrator account with one.
That's what I do and it avoids most issues, especially when they have kids.
@phnt @cell @kaia @ooignignoktoo
Also here's the software to unbloat
https://github.com/Fs00/Win10BloatRemover/releases
I do most it manually and go further than that but it's what most people want.
As for software
-OpenShell: a functional desktop GUI
https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/
-Bleachbit: Cleaner
https://www.bleachbit.org/
Defragmentation: ultradefrag
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ultradefrag/files/stable-release/7.1.4
Note: this is the last version that is GPL, after that they closed and became proprietary.
-Peazip: Archiver
https://peazip.github.io/
-SumatraPDF: PDF reader
https://www.sumatrapdfreader.org/free-pdf-reader
-Nomacs: image reader/editor
https://nomacs.org/
-LibreOffice: Office suite/pdf editor
https://www.libreoffice.org/
-Firefox ESR: Web browser
https://www.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/enterprise/#download
-Thunderbird: email client
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/download/
-VLC: audio/video decoder
https://www.videolan.org/vlc/
-KeepassXC: password manager
https://keepassxc.org/
-The Gimp: advanced image editor
https://www.gimp.org/
-Clamwin: antivirus
https://clamwin.com/
-Client torrent
https://www.qbittorrent.org/
-Image reader/editor with GPS metadata reading localization: digiKam
https://www.digikam.org/
-Folder hierarchy: WinDirStat
https://windirstat.net/
WebBrowser addons:
-uBo : a simple web firewall
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/
-uMatrix: an advanced web firewall
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/umatrix/
-Lightbeam: generates maps of third party trackers
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lightbeam-chikl
-Firefox Multi-Account Containers:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/
Optional:
-Blender: 3d modeling/animating
https://www.blender.org/
-OBS: video/audio recording/streaming
https://obsproject.com/
-Gsmartcontrol: HDD/SDD SMART diagnosis
https://gsmartcontrol.shaduri.dev/
Also here's the software to unbloat
https://github.com/Fs00/Win10BloatRemover/releases
I do most it manually and go further than that but it's what most people want.
As for software
-OpenShell: a functional desktop GUI
https://open-shell.github.io/Open-Shell-Menu/
-Bleachbit: Cleaner
https://www.bleachbit.org/
Defragmentation: ultradefrag
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ultradefrag/files/stable-release/7.1.4
Note: this is the last version that is GPL, after that they closed and became proprietary.
-Peazip: Archiver
https://peazip.github.io/
-SumatraPDF: PDF reader
https://www.sumatrapdfreader.org/free-pdf-reader
-Nomacs: image reader/editor
https://nomacs.org/
-LibreOffice: Office suite/pdf editor
https://www.libreoffice.org/
-Firefox ESR: Web browser
https://www.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/enterprise/#download
-Thunderbird: email client
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/download/
-VLC: audio/video decoder
https://www.videolan.org/vlc/
-KeepassXC: password manager
https://keepassxc.org/
-The Gimp: advanced image editor
https://www.gimp.org/
-Clamwin: antivirus
https://clamwin.com/
-Client torrent
https://www.qbittorrent.org/
-Image reader/editor with GPS metadata reading localization: digiKam
https://www.digikam.org/
-Folder hierarchy: WinDirStat
https://windirstat.net/
WebBrowser addons:
-uBo : a simple web firewall
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/
-uMatrix: an advanced web firewall
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/umatrix/
-Lightbeam: generates maps of third party trackers
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lightbeam-chikl
-Firefox Multi-Account Containers:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/
Optional:
-Blender: 3d modeling/animating
https://www.blender.org/
-OBS: video/audio recording/streaming
https://obsproject.com/
-Gsmartcontrol: HDD/SDD SMART diagnosis
https://gsmartcontrol.shaduri.dev/
@mangeurdenuage @kaia @phnt @cell @ooignignoktoo I agree with with this pretty much 100% when I have to setup a Windows on someone else's box for one reason or another. A big fan of ninite for speeding up most of the software installs.
https://ninite.com/
https://ninite.com/
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@rain @kaia @phnt @cell @ooignignoktoo
I could just do some scripting and it would also work but I'm lazy.
>ninite
This is sadly proprietary software.
I could just do some scripting and it would also work but I'm lazy.
>ninite
This is sadly proprietary software.
@rain @kaia @phnt @cell @ooignignoktoo What I said about being lazy aside is that I've often got such random moment and the scripting/automation just fuck up.
been like that since win10 especially.
Never had that issue on 7, any scripts just ran.
moment and the scripting/automation just fuck up.been like that since win10 especially.
Never had that issue on 7, any scripts just ran.
@mangeurdenuage @kaia @cell @ooignignoktoo
>Disable fast boot. That's the issue. Fast boot on the long terms cause tremendous amount of fragmentation
It's not fragmentation. That is sitting consistently around 1%. It's just a combination of a slow HDD and ESET's trigger happy scanning everything as it passes by on the FS layer.
I'm convinced that if he disabled and stopped paying ESET, the laptop would be much faster, but he's insistent that he'll get "hacked". Nothing I can really do since I've lost all hope anyway after years of arguing about this. 2 years ago he bought an iPhone SE and it took a full of convincing that there isn't any ESET AV for iPhones as it is with Android. And that it's impossible to make an AV on iOS anyway since the OS does not allow any kind of FS access without a sandbox. He's planning on buying a MacBook to replace his 8 year old "slow" ThinkPad and he already told me that he'll install ESET on it. I don't like saying this, but he's too far gone in my eyes.
>Disable fast boot. That's the issue. Fast boot on the long terms cause tremendous amount of fragmentation
It's not fragmentation. That is sitting consistently around 1%. It's just a combination of a slow HDD and ESET's trigger happy scanning everything as it passes by on the FS layer.
I'm convinced that if he disabled and stopped paying ESET, the laptop would be much faster, but he's insistent that he'll get "hacked". Nothing I can really do since I've lost all hope anyway after years of arguing about this. 2 years ago he bought an iPhone SE and it took a full of convincing that there isn't any ESET AV for iPhones as it is with Android. And that it's impossible to make an AV on iOS anyway since the OS does not allow any kind of FS access without a sandbox. He's planning on buying a MacBook to replace his 8 year old "slow" ThinkPad and he already told me that he'll install ESET on it. I don't like saying this, but he's too far gone in my eyes.
@phnt @kaia @cell @ooignignoktoo
>It's not fragmentation.
I'm not saying it's only that. Trust me on this one, aside the fragmentation, it makes no sense but removing fast boot actually maintains the system better over time
>a combination of a slow HDD and ESET's
I also agree.
>I don't like saying this, but he's too far gone in my eyes.
He's been bullshited by your average tech conman, they're also the ones making it hell for us.
Show him these
Corporate surveillance, digital tracking, big data & privacy
https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-8414-corporate_surveillance_digital_tracking_big_data_privacy
The surreptitious assault on privacy, security, and freedom
https://media.libreplanet.org/mgoblin_media/media_entries/1529/144_7_gerwith.webm
Data collection, psychographic profiling, and their impact on politics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUm9hV9KPy0
DEF CON 21 - Karl Koscher and Eric Butler - The Secret Life of SIM Cards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-nxemBCcmU
Security Analysis of Estonia's Internet Voting System
https://media.ccc.de/v/31c3_-_6344_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201412281400_-_security_analysis_of_estonia_s_internet_voting_system_-_j_alex_halderman
Maybe he'll change his mind and start to read privacy policy/EULAs after these.
>It's not fragmentation.
I'm not saying it's only that. Trust me on this one, aside the fragmentation, it makes no sense but removing fast boot actually maintains the system better over time
>a combination of a slow HDD and ESET's
I also agree.
>I don't like saying this, but he's too far gone in my eyes.
He's been bullshited by your average tech conman, they're also the ones making it hell for us.
Show him these
Corporate surveillance, digital tracking, big data & privacy
https://media.ccc.de/v/33c3-8414-corporate_surveillance_digital_tracking_big_data_privacy
The surreptitious assault on privacy, security, and freedom
https://media.libreplanet.org/mgoblin_media/media_entries/1529/144_7_gerwith.webm
Data collection, psychographic profiling, and their impact on politics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUm9hV9KPy0
DEF CON 21 - Karl Koscher and Eric Butler - The Secret Life of SIM Cards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-nxemBCcmU
Security Analysis of Estonia's Internet Voting System
https://media.ccc.de/v/31c3_-_6344_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201412281400_-_security_analysis_of_estonia_s_internet_voting_system_-_j_alex_halderman
Maybe he'll change his mind and start to read privacy policy/EULAs after these.