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gotta buy some games before summer sales end?

@kaia You should not unless you can at least actually buy them (the only games you can actually buy on steam are the few ones under a free license - although it would be morally better to not help steam to profit from their proprietary schemes).

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buying games
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@lain hey! I have played a lot of them! like at least 1/10th

@raccoon Did I stutter?

It's quite a big list even; https://libregamewiki.org/Main_Page

@Suiseiseki how about GOG?

@kaia gog is just as proprietary and has less free games (if any), although they don't generally allow some kinds of digital handcuffs.

I remember correctly, they recently intentionally removed existing systemd/Linux support from their (proprietary) client and have gone windows-only.

@raccoon When you remove the shit taste it turns out that most of them are pretty good (the same is true for everything).

@Suiseiseki @raccoon I feel like this is just grasping at the straws at this point tbh.

@rain Supertuxkart, minetest, xmoto, hedgewars, powermanaga, tecnoballz, supertux2, extreme tux racer, ultimate stunts, vdrift, speed-dreams-2, GNUjump, GNU liquid war, Xonotic (offline), mars-game, xbill (and xlennart variant), orbital eunuchs sniper, the games in Emacs (tetris and snake are the best), Emilia pinball, gltron, I have no tomatoes, taisei and many more I can't remember right now.

All fine games and all freedom respecting.

@dushman GNU/Jihad against "FOSS"!

Free clones are great, as it allows people to enjoy what such games had to offer without surrendering their freedom - although many clones are left at a "good enough" state, many become functionally better than the original.

I haven't played that proprietary game, so I don't know if it's any good or not, but can you truly enjoy a game if it doesn't respect your freedom and community?

@mischievoustomato @Suiseiseki @raccoon yes king

@Suiseiseki this is either the best troll on fedi or an actual retard and I cannot tell which

RT: https://freesoftwareextremist.com/objects/0e4d84d3-ce34-4198-b8a1-7bf066e76925

@hor32 I don't see what's "retarded" about saying that "GNU/Linux" should be called GNU/Linux or GNU+Linux or LiGNUx or GNU and Linux should be called Linux, but GNU should not be called "Linux".

@Suiseiseki @dushman Does this mean I can't enjoy a song if I don't have the stems for each instrument playing? Or if I can't enjoy an anime if I don't have all of the cel frames or the file that has the source frames, voices, etc that are all spliced into separate files? At this point, games are an entertainment, they maybe be software but the whole purpose is just to be entertained, its not something where I'm going out of my way and do any kind of work on. I mean shit I just pirate my games and run them through Lutris.

@hor32 Any my freedom posts are handcrafted - there will never be any proprietary language model used.

Here's the start - draw the rest yourself; 8

@anonicus >Does this mean I can't enjoy a song if I don't have the stems for each instrument playing?
A song is merely a sequence of sound frequencies and if you have the actual sound file - there is nothing but copyright law that stops you from changing the song with ffmpeg and/or sharing copies to your neighbor.

>Or if I can't enjoy an anime if I don't have all of the cel frames or the file that has the source frames, voices, etc that are all spliced into separate files
A video is merely a sequence of frames with optionally a synchronized audio or subtitles - there is nothing but copyright law that stops you from changing video, audio and subtitles with ffmpeg and/or sharing copies to your neighbor.

>At this point, games are an entertainment, they maybe be software but the whole purpose is just to be entertained, its not something where I'm going out of my way and do any kind of work on.
Just because you personally may not currently want to do something doesn't mean it's legitimate to deny such freedoms for everyone.

A game cannot feasibly be modified without the source code and depending on how the game formats its data, control over the format handling software may be required to work out how the data is formatted.

I may not always want to modify a game (I sometimes actually do want to with certain free software games and carry out some modifications), but I may want to compile it from source so it runs on GNU/Linux natively without having to run it through wine.

@dushman @anonicus @raccoon @Suiseiseki most foss games are consumate trash, either glorified tech demos or bland design by committee affairs, no sovl to them at all

@allison @anonicus @raccoon @dushman @Suiseiseki *Looks at Doom*

Don't know about souls but there's a lot of hellspawn to shoot.

@lispi314 @Suiseiseki @dushman @raccoon @anonicus Doom was originally proprietary and the assets are still proprietary, it was made as a commercial game to commercial standards of quality with the intention of commercial renumeration, and it succeeded at being a quality game because of these factors and because of the *taste* the original designers had (taste is a hard thing to quantify, but without it, you are always going to be lost when it comes to making worthwhile games)

@allison There is freed∞m now, which is the free DOOM engine combined with free artwork and levels.

Referring to the game art etc as "assets" devalues them to the next level.

@pernia @Suiseiseki @dushman @raccoon @anonicus Tromi is FOSS, Dr. Robotnik's Ring Racers is FOSS, Xonotic is FOSS, there are definitely good FOSS games around but I would not expect the likes of Suiseiseki to be able to name any of them

@allison I named xonotic, I'm not sure what you're on about.
GNU/Jihad against "FOSS"!!!

Of course all the software you named has freedom issues.

- The licensing on Tromi is very sloppy, so I can't say it's free and they've gone and it appears that they've ripped sound effects from NES Tetris and SiIvaGunner music, which cannot legally be distributed.
- The GNU/Linux version of Dr. Robotnik's Ring Racers should be free software as it seems to be based on SRB2, although I'm not too sure and I'll need to inspect to make sure - although the windows version of SRB2 contained proprietary software last time I checked.
- Xonotic is free software under the GPLv3-or-later although software under unknown licenses is arbitrarily loaded in the online mode.

@Suiseiseki Huh? Are you sure you're looking at the same Tromi? https://invidious.uknow.moe/watch?v=8N_s98WWeLQ all the sound effects were obtained off freesound.org AFAIK and none of them are from nestris (some TGM clone games use imitation sounds created by tepples in Famitracker to mimic the TGM piece sounds, but Tromi isn't one of them). There *were* issues with copyright in earlier versions (the music in version 1 and the font in versions before 2.4) but those have all been fixed now.

@allison What I found via emerge --search and a web search was a game called generic-tetromino-game.

I don't see see much difference to Emacs tetris gameplay-wise, although the backgrounds are fancy.

According to the page Tromi is free software under the GPLv3-or-later, but I shall check the source code.